You write like a guy
Does an author’s gender matter?
Can you tell if a book is written by a male or female?
Does it make a difference to you when you buy a book?
This topic came up in a recent thread in the Amazon Kindle community.
Part of the issue was, oddly enough, my own gender.
I don’t pretend to be something I’m not, but I also avoid identifying it when I write. The same thing goes for my Significant Other and offspring…it can be a little awkward when I write, honestly, but I don’t say she or he for my family.
If it’s awkward, why do I do it?
Because I think it shouldn’t matter to readers.
My Significant Other could be my domestic partner, my wife, my boyfriend, my girlfriend…all kinds of possibilities.
I love my actual status, but I’m sure people with other statuses love theirs as well. I think because of prejudice, it is easier for some people to identify themselves than others.
I think people should be able to choose to make that identification for themselves and their family or not…so I don’t do it, just to open that door a bit wider.
Some Kindleers have met me and my family..that happened at last year’s Kindle & Koffee day.
There are some pictures of me out there…although interestingly, there is at least one picture that is labeled as me that isn’t. 🙂
I think this is one of the great things about the internet: people can be known by their words, without their age , religion, gender preference, race, country, gender, and so on, being part of that judgement.
I don’t misrepresent it…I just don’t present it. 😉
But enough about me. 🙂
Certainly, people think it makes a difference, or at least used to do so. Women who wanted to write science fiction and comic books used to sometimes pick male pen names. The same is true for men who want to write romances.
I think the former has become less true over time, as people have gotten over the concept that science fiction is a male thing.
As for men writing romances…quick, name a famous male romance writer! Admittedly, some of you can’t name any romance writers 😉 , but those of you who know the genre might be surprised.
It’s funny…I was considering listing some examples, but I would feel like I was outing them. Is it possible their sales could drop off if readers knew they were male?
How unfair would that be?
If you had read an author for years and then found out that your romance writer was male, would that make a difference?
Pen names are actually much more complicated than that. Some single pen names represent more than one person…wife and husband writing teams, parent and child, and so on.
Other names are “house names”, owned by the publishing company. The same house name could be used by a lot of people…possibly even people of different genders.
Hmmm…let’s do this. I’ll throw in a couple of samples. You can let me know if you think the author is male or female.
Sample 1
Let me try and give you some notion of her: not that first impression, whatever it may have been, but the absolute reality of her as I gradually learned to see it. To begin with, I must repeat and reiterate over and over again, that she was, beyond all comparison, the most graceful and exquisite woman I have ever seen, but with a grace and an exquisiteness that had
nothing to do with any preconceived notion or previous experience of what goes by these names: grace and exquisiteness recognised at once as perfect,
but which were seen in her for the first, and probably, I do believe, for the last time. It is conceivable, is it not, that once in a thousand years there may arise a combination of lines, a system of movements, an outline, a gesture, which is new, unprecedented, and yet hits off exactly our desires for beauty and rareness?
Sample 2
When the terrace was reached it appeared not only to have caught and gathered all the heat of the valley below, but to have evolved a fire of its own from some hidden crater-like source unknown. Nevertheless, instead of prostrating and enervating man and beast, it was said to have induced the wildest exaltation. The heated air was filled and stifling with resinous exhalations. The delirious spices of balm, bay, spruce, juniper, yerba buena, wild syringa, and strange aromatic herbs as yet unclassified, distilled and evaporated in that mighty heat, and seemed to fire with a midsummer madness all who breathed their fumes. They stung, smarted, stimulated, intoxicated. It was said that the most jaded and foot-sore horses became furious and ungovernable under their influence; wearied teamsters and muleteers, who had exhausted their profanity in the ascent, drank fresh draughts of inspiration in this fiery air, extended their vocabulary, and created new and startling forms of objurgation.
I’ll give you the answer on these later. 🙂 UPDATE: You can see the answers here.
One more question:
Feel free to leave me a comment…do you think it’s silly that I don’t identify? Do you think it does matter what the gender of an author is? If you read a novel written in the first person by a female character, would it matter to you if a male author wrote it? How about if it was the other way around? Do you think female authors of traditionally male literature should identify, to create more opportunities for other female authors? Is the same true for male authors of traditionally female literature?
Is it all a non-issue?
I’m interested in what you think…
This post by Bufo Calvin originally appeared in the I Love My Kindle blog.
June 16, 2010 at 6:33 am |
I actually have two different online personas that I use depending on the circumstances. As a female involved in software development and generally compuer-related geeky stuff, I found that it was often useful to be able to join an online group without having my gender apparent to those who didn’t know me. Since the groups I was frequenting were heavily male-dominated, the general assumption was that I was male, and I generally did not attempt to break that assumption until I knew and trusted the people in the group.
I later ended up using my gender-neutral persona in an online writing group, where I was writing from the perspective of a male. Interestingly, as some people there learned that I was a female, many of them were very surprised, despite the fact that that group did not lean significantly to either gender.
I know that many people believe that they can guess the gender of a person by their writing, but in my experience, I don’t think that’s necessarily true. For the most part, I would guess that writing styles are not that different between men and women.
June 16, 2010 at 2:09 pm |
Thanks, tuxgirl!
The software thing is interesting. While there was a general sense that computer geeks were hired for their skills (they were the only people who understood the software, the hardware, and the networks, so their social skills and appearance didn’t matter as much), there certainly was a stereotype that they were largely male. That’s a great example of an arena where volunteering a status could “impact the impact”, because people would have focused on your minority status.
I’m loving that so far the two writing samples are splitting significantly. Those are clearly small samples, but it’s also obvious that it isn’t obvious. 🙂
June 16, 2010 at 1:19 pm |
I really respect people who don’t thrust their gender/race/sexuality in other peoples faces. The stereotype-jokes can be funny at times I suppose, but they are also tired-out and authors can be annoying when they assume things about their audience. It is strange though. The perceptions I get of people from reading what they write are hardly ever how they come across face-to-face… Which is more accurate I wonder?
June 16, 2010 at 2:14 pm |
Thanks, draegi!
I think that people have several different facets, and they can all be accurate. A lot of teenagers behave differently with their peers than with their parents (or other adult guardians). That doesn’t mean they are consciously putting on either “face”. Humans tend to constantly adjust based on the other humans around them: loud or quiet, outgoing or reserved, happy or scared…those all tend to be influenced by the crowds around you. Oh, not for everybody, but for most people.
I don’t tend to go for stereotype jokes…well, that’s not entirely true. I’ve told engineer/manager jokes, and PC/Mac jokes. 🙂
June 16, 2010 at 10:42 pm |
LOL! Do you have any idea how many of your faithful readers immediately rushed to Google you? Okay, so I outed myself! But, never dangle that kind of carrot in front of a fan of mysteries…
Anyway, from my perspective, whether you are a male, female, transvestite, or wombat… It really does not matter if you are able to write well. However, I will say that I am less likely to get into fiction written from a 1st person male POV (regardless of the sex of the author). Don’t know why; but, I’ve always had that hang-up. Guess I just lack that gene…
As for famous males who can write from an eerily accurate feminine perspective, my favorite author, Robert Heinlein springs to mind. My father and I used to jest that Heinlein’s later stuff was written by his wife, which is why the Robert A. was all jammed together on the covers of his books.
June 17, 2010 at 12:14 am |
Well, who am I to argue with Google? 😉
I can understand having trouble with a POV (or any given style of writing). Ginny certainly had a big impact on Robert Heinlein’s life. I don’t know what kind of input she might have had on the writing, though. My Significant Other and I have written some things for fun (like funny songs for work events, that kind of thing), My SO is not involved in writing the blogs, though.
July 15, 2013 at 2:54 pm |
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